Oostduinkerke-Wn Waldersee
and WN Karthäuser Düne

Updated May 25 2007, May 26 2008, July 12 2008, December 6 2009

The site has been temporary protected.
If someone notices some anomalies please contact:

bwgs_belgianworkinggroupsatellites@hotmail.com

Wn Waldersee was part of the Stp.Gr. Oost Duinkerke-Bad.
Other Wn points were Wn Marder, Wn Manteuffel, Wn Marseille and Wn Kinderheim
There is still a R612 left and some other Vf types bunkers and Tobruks.
 Some pictures belong to another strongpoint as they were not far positionned to each other.
The site cannot be visited directly as it is located in a dune area which is not freely accessible.
There should be a R502 somewhere but I couldn't find it, but maybe it is just next to the R612.

Wn Waldersee/H.K.B. Groenendijk Plage was a place with a dramatic local history.   September 10 1944 the battery was attacked by the Canadian Army.  The battle was heavy and the Germans refused to surrender and they continued to fight under heavy artillery fire.  On September 11 the battery was attacted by fighter bombers, but without any radio contact with other German troops the battery surrendered on September 12 1944.
But here's another story to be told.  You can read it here(in Dutch, use a translation robot like http://babelfish.altavista.com/)
http://www.verzet.org/content/view/387/36/and here   http://www.verzet.org/content/view/388/36/

The links above are the viewpoints from the resistance people.  I must say that I respect everybody's viewpoint but I try to stay as neutral as possible about that history.  Fact is that they were very dramatic for both parties.
All this happened close to this location.(and of course the H.K.B Groenendijk Plage and the Karthuizerduinen observation posts)

April 22 2006: The site has been visited again.  I received several rumours that the site was close to be cleaned up from debris but
during a previous visit on January 20 the site wasn't looking very well with a heavy crane standing close by..  Fortunately things are looking much brighter now and the site is even looking better than before.  Nothing has changed and the entrances of the tunnels have been cleaned up showing a much better view of the site.  I hope this site will be preserved as a silent witness of WWII Atlantic Wall in Belgium and especially for Oostduinkerke.
I want to thank several correspondents for keeping me alert on the possible changes of this remarkable site.

April 24: The site doesn't seem to be safe at all !  This is what I've heard from several correspondents.
I would recommend to everyone to keep an eye on this site that nothing is altered or demolished !  There goes my two cents...

June 23 2007: It seems that both sites near the beach and the Karthuizerduinen are temporary protected.

May 25 2008: Discovery of a Tobruk near the OBS 600 bunker.  It is probably covered with dune sand.

July 12 2008: Although with necessary precautions, I discovered that the emergency exit of a Vf1a(or Vf2b?) is currently free.
There is much sand in the bunker but the L sign is well preserved.  Be carefull with entering this bunker !  At your own risk !

December 6 2009: We entered the sole 502 on the site.  It was the only way to discover the bunker position number.  See furthter below for more details.
The garage bunkers was also inspected.

Location map of Wn Waldersee, the 'Widerstandsnest' which was situatuated just beneath(SW) of H.K.B Groenendijk Plage/Stp Von Der Tann.  Number 21 is the location of the R612.
The other points will be numbered later but show the location of several remaining artifacts.

Part of the Einsatzkarte 171.J.D. from March 25 1943.

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Some brick remains and a Tobruk in the reservate.

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There is also an emplacement for tank gun.

A trench leading to a 58c or d Tobruk.

Situation April 22 2006.

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Left and right: comparison picture of the Vf3 observation bunker.
On the picture on the left from 1981 just behind the Vf3 bunker there's a tobruk.
On the right picture from 2005 it has disappeared under dune sand.

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VF3 MG Rundumstand

New situation on April 22 2006.

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There are several Tobruks which can be found and some Vf constructions.

I discovered that the emergency exit was free on July 12 2008 so I entered the bunker with the necessary precautions.  I presume it is a Vf1a or Vf2b.
Below are the pictures:

Previously, the Vf bunker could be seen like this.

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Emergency exit now free.  Some work has been done by others !

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Left: view on emergency exit.  Right: room.

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genLeft: The L(eightes) sign well preserved.  Right: both entrances are filled with sand.

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Same place on April 22 2006.

Date 20-3-43; probably destroyed by now...

Garage bunker, situation December 6 2009.  This place has changed a lot.

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Inside the Garage bunker.  there is a sideway corridor at the entrance.

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Both pictures are from April 22 2006.  The Tunnel entrances have been cleared.  Unfortunately nobody knows by who.  This could lead to further damage.

Inside the tunnel.

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The brick trenches are sometimes nicely preserved(but for how long ?).  This one is leading to the R612.
Right picture: Exept from installing a fence, hopefully nothing has changed on April 22 2006.

4: Ammunition, 5: Gun Room(Plan ©Rudi Rolf(www.rudirolf.name)

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Some other views of the frontside of the R612.

Looking in the direction of the R612.  Just in front of it, another bunker is probably buried beneath the dune.  April 22 2006.

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Right picture: Situation on April 22 2006: Looking very carefully, another bunker(502) is comming free.

December 6 2009:

Here's the result of a day digging:

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Left: Digging through the entrance is very hard and sometimes dangerous.  We have to be carefull.
Right: Bunkernumber 'OST-W 028-286'.

Doppelgruppenunterstand 502: Plan © 2009 Rudi Rolf(www.rudirolf.name)

Entrance near 1. 'Gasschleuse'.

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Entrance and 3.Bereitschaftsraum.

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Right: Above the Eingangsverteidigung there are two holes which purpose is unknown.

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Electric wires and connection boxes still in place.

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Periscope room.

The other Eingangsverteidigung at the second 3. Bereitschaftsraum.

The Tobruk defence close to the R612.

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Guardhouse in front and emplacement for 5cm KWK.

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Pictures above taken on April 22 2006:

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Tobruk(2) and Guardhouse(1).  April 22 2006.

Inside the Tobruk(2).  April 22 2006.

Here below are the left over bunkers at the 'Karthuizerduinen'.  This is the observation area for H.K.B. Groenendijk Plage which is now almost completely gone(only a few concrete blocks remain under the houses now build over the previous H.K.B. Groenendijk Plage).

French 155mm gun at the H.K.B Groenendijk plage/Stp Von Der Tann(5./H.K.A.A. 1240).  There were 6 of them in an open emplacement position. Plans were made to put them in R679 Atlantic Wall type bunkers but this never happened.  In the background you can see what is probably the R164 Leitstand of the battery.  This site was the main battery of  Stp Gr. Oostdunkerke Bad with Wn Waldersee as a supporting 'Wiederstandsnest'.

The Wn Waldersee was very close related with the H.K.B. Groenendijk Plage/Stp Von Der Tann.
It is unbelievable that the bunkers are still there but for how long ?  The bunkers played a very important role in the story of Irma Laplace(see above).  As the bunkers of WN Karthäuser Düne are closely related with the remaining trenches and bunkers of Wn Waldersee, for Oostduinkerkes 'history' it is very important not to waste the last remaining evidence of German WWII presence in this area.  Once demolished, gone forever, and gone history...

WN Karthäuser Düne

Only two Welblechs remain.  And a ruine of a brick construction.

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The first observation post, number 5 on chart.  This is the situation on March 3 2005.
Unfortunately, graffity has also spoiled this bunker.(right May 21 2007)

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Inside the bunker(May 6, 2006)

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Number 6: Almost the same as number 5.

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Not to be seen on the left picture but on right picture the emergency exit becomes visible together with a second chimney or periscope.
(right picture: May 21 2007)

Location number 7

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Number 9 on chart: the ruins of a brick building.

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